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		<title>By: Evergreen Solar Closes Shop in Mass., Goes the Way of Apple &#124; AdamSewall.com Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evergreen Solar Closes Shop in Mass., Goes the Way of Apple &#124; AdamSewall.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mind that the move was somewhat telegraphed back in 2009. Evergreen&#8217;s recent announcement has lit a heated debate over the proper role of government [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Evergreen's American Solar Panels Cost-Competitive With Chinese &#124; GetSolar.com Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evergreen's American Solar Panels Cost-Competitive With Chinese &#124; GetSolar.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] make investors happy were behind the decision to start outsourcing solar panel production to China late in 2009, though the same move made Massachusetts legislators pretty unhappy indeed as the company had only [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Massachusetts Readies New Solar Plan For January 2010 &#124; GetSolar.com Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Massachusetts Readies New Solar Plan For January 2010 &#124; GetSolar.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] decision of Evergreen Solar—the erstwhile source of Massachusetts’ state solar pride—to outsource hasn’t dampened the Bay State’s determination to go solar. Stay strong, Massachusetts.   Share [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Senators, Congressman Push to Keep Solar Jobs in U.S. &#124; GetSolar.com Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.getsolar.com/blog/evergreen-solar-outsources-to-china/2731/comment-page-1/#comment-1402</link>
		<dc:creator>Senators, Congressman Push to Keep Solar Jobs in U.S. &#124; GetSolar.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] closely on the heels of Evergreen’s decision to outsource to China, a quartet of legislators representing three different states and both sides of the political [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Connie Zheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie Zheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi stonewall,

Your frustration that American renewables aren&#039;t always made domestically is understandable and a concern that&#039;s shared by many, hence the major federal (and, depending on where you live, state) push toward cultivating a home-grown renewables industry. Still, it&#039;s important to keep in mind that Evergreen is moving solar panel assembly to China--not production--and that a manufacturer&#039;s outsourced carbon footprint depends largely on its specific case.

As I&#039;m certain you well know, the global oversupply of solar panels has contributed significantly to their lowered prices. Particularly in the case of smaller companies such as Evergreen, this sort of situation may force them to cut costs in politically unpopular ways but which do save money and appease shareholders, whose wallets are tied to the companies&#039; bank balances. This way, outsourcing allows the companies to focus their money and attention on their key strengths and business--in Evergreen&#039;s case, the production of solar products that are among the most environmentally-friendly in the industry.

You&#039;re right that avoidable emissions are created by Evergreen&#039;s decision to outsource, but the changed size of its carbon footprint depends on the specific costs associated with the panels&#039; production and assembly. It&#039;s impossible to know for sure the carbon impact of such a move without doing a detailed carbon inventory, and even then the numbers may not be exact, especially since it&#039;s still a burgeoning field. The lower energy-intensive processes in developing countries like China may result in lower CO2 emissions overall--but the fact that most of China&#039;s factories are still powered by coal may counteract that. I can&#039;t pretend to know what Evergreen&#039;s (or its contractor&#039;s) exact labor costs are. Regardless, because China is a coal-intensive economy, the emissions produced in the transport of Evergreen&#039;s assembled-in-China panels are far less than those that would be produced by a comparably-sized competitor who had outsourced production there. 

It&#039;s crucial to keep in mind that Evergreen would likely go out of business quickly if it didn&#039;t adapt its business practices to suit the economic climate, and that moving part of the supply chain overseas is standard industry practice virtually everywhere around the world, including Germany. Evergreen isn&#039;t the only solar manufacturer to look to Asia--German manufacturer Q-Cells and Norwegian producer Renewable Energy Corp. have both already begun to set up plants there, for example. Ideally, Evergreen would keep both production and assembly in the U.S. But the solar industry is currently undergoing a lot of change--both good and bad, though I like to think mostly good--and perhaps it&#039;s too early to write Evergreen off so quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi stonewall,</p>
<p>Your frustration that American renewables aren&#8217;t always made domestically is understandable and a concern that&#8217;s shared by many, hence the major federal (and, depending on where you live, state) push toward cultivating a home-grown renewables industry. Still, it&#8217;s important to keep in mind that Evergreen is moving solar panel assembly to China&#8211;not production&#8211;and that a manufacturer&#8217;s outsourced carbon footprint depends largely on its specific case.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;m certain you well know, the global oversupply of solar panels has contributed significantly to their lowered prices. Particularly in the case of smaller companies such as Evergreen, this sort of situation may force them to cut costs in politically unpopular ways but which do save money and appease shareholders, whose wallets are tied to the companies&#8217; bank balances. This way, outsourcing allows the companies to focus their money and attention on their key strengths and business&#8211;in Evergreen&#8217;s case, the production of solar products that are among the most environmentally-friendly in the industry.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that avoidable emissions are created by Evergreen&#8217;s decision to outsource, but the changed size of its carbon footprint depends on the specific costs associated with the panels&#8217; production and assembly. It&#8217;s impossible to know for sure the carbon impact of such a move without doing a detailed carbon inventory, and even then the numbers may not be exact, especially since it&#8217;s still a burgeoning field. The lower energy-intensive processes in developing countries like China may result in lower CO2 emissions overall&#8211;but the fact that most of China&#8217;s factories are still powered by coal may counteract that. I can&#8217;t pretend to know what Evergreen&#8217;s (or its contractor&#8217;s) exact labor costs are. Regardless, because China is a coal-intensive economy, the emissions produced in the transport of Evergreen&#8217;s assembled-in-China panels are far less than those that would be produced by a comparably-sized competitor who had outsourced production there. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s crucial to keep in mind that Evergreen would likely go out of business quickly if it didn&#8217;t adapt its business practices to suit the economic climate, and that moving part of the supply chain overseas is standard industry practice virtually everywhere around the world, including Germany. Evergreen isn&#8217;t the only solar manufacturer to look to Asia&#8211;German manufacturer Q-Cells and Norwegian producer Renewable Energy Corp. have both already begun to set up plants there, for example. Ideally, Evergreen would keep both production and assembly in the U.S. But the solar industry is currently undergoing a lot of change&#8211;both good and bad, though I like to think mostly good&#8211;and perhaps it&#8217;s too early to write Evergreen off so quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Evergreen Solar Stocks Fall: China Not Enough? &#124; GetSolar.com Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evergreen Solar Stocks Fall: China Not Enough? &#124; GetSolar.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Patrick. But the company is moving a part of their production practice to China (see Connie&#8217;s post on the move for more info). While the state is understandably aggrieved by this decision, stock analysts think [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Patrick. But the company is moving a part of their production practice to China (see Connie&#8217;s post on the move for more info). While the state is understandably aggrieved by this decision, stock analysts think [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by GetSolar: New blog post: Evergreen Solar Outsources to China http://bit.ly/2TJCwi...</description>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Evergreen Solar Outsources to China &#124; GetSolar.com Blog -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by GetSolar.com and Jeremy McNamara, John Power. John Power said: Evergreen Solar Outsources to China http://bit.ly/40W3Hi [...]</description>
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		<title>By: stonewall</title>
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		<dc:creator>stonewall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a shame!   Its a real disappointment that wind turbines and solar panels etc that are supposed to save $$ and reduce greenhouse emissions have to be produced so far away and transported across the world.  The carbon footprint of these products will be much greater when produced so far away.  Now if this was to satisfy demand for this product in that region of the world I would be OK with that but that is not likely the case with the restrictive import environment of China.  It takes a significantly longer time to offset the carbon footprint from all the transport of goods and materials not to mention the stimulus $$ that will be shipped overseas for this process rather than to build up green industries here.   Throw in the inefficient coal burning power plants necessary for manufacturing and the environmental benefits are even worse.  Last year I saw great hope that the US was serious about becoming a green center of innovation.  Now just like every other industry those jobs and $$ will go overseas.  If Germany can become the worlds biggest exporter why can&#039;t we keep our manufacturing jobs here.  I was seriously thinking of installing Evergreen panels on my home over the next year due but won&#039;t do that now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame!   Its a real disappointment that wind turbines and solar panels etc that are supposed to save $$ and reduce greenhouse emissions have to be produced so far away and transported across the world.  The carbon footprint of these products will be much greater when produced so far away.  Now if this was to satisfy demand for this product in that region of the world I would be OK with that but that is not likely the case with the restrictive import environment of China.  It takes a significantly longer time to offset the carbon footprint from all the transport of goods and materials not to mention the stimulus $$ that will be shipped overseas for this process rather than to build up green industries here.   Throw in the inefficient coal burning power plants necessary for manufacturing and the environmental benefits are even worse.  Last year I saw great hope that the US was serious about becoming a green center of innovation.  Now just like every other industry those jobs and $$ will go overseas.  If Germany can become the worlds biggest exporter why can&#8217;t we keep our manufacturing jobs here.  I was seriously thinking of installing Evergreen panels on my home over the next year due but won&#8217;t do that now.</p>
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