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kenoatman Said,
December 11th, 2009 @11:44 am  

There will always be a hardcore DIY market, and this is a great move for that segment.

Still, most people that consider this will want professionals to drill holes that don’t leak on their roof, and local permitting departments will make DIYers jump through hoops, and it’s hard to say whether warranties or rebates will apply when installations are done by non-professionals.

Like anything, there’s good and bad. I say DIY solar has its place, and I hope it becomes easier and easier in the future. But professional installers don’t need to sweat, and in fact, my company works with DIYers to help them do the work they want to do, in the right way.

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Rickardo Said,
December 11th, 2009 @2:20 pm  

There are a lot people who shop at Lowes who would NEVER think about climbing on their roof. 98%?

Anyone who is a hardcore DIYer (like myself) is not going to buy PV panels or inverters if they can buy them cheaper online.
So, Lowes is going to need LOW prices on this stuff. Meaning inverters under $200 each and panels for about 3 bucks a watt.

If you watch the Enphase install video on youtube and look at the diagrams in their manual, you might start thinking, this “seems too easy”.

But, if you research it for a while, (read 2603A071d01 NEC PV.PDF)
and read around the web, about what goes into a well designed install,
it’s not really ‘too easy’.
But it’s very possible for many non-pros to accomplish..

My local electrical inspector allows me (as a homeowner) to do my own wiring, (230 wiring included) and I’ve always passed inspections.

But, I think he is going to have to re-think the rules about DC cut-offs
and outdoor conduit requirements, after he gets a look at the EnPhase diagrams.
This type of install is leading edge and the local rules are going to need some revision. To be modernized.

There is no way that I would try to install a PV system with the old tech PV hardware. But, with Enphase inverters, it will actually be Easy(for me).

The net-metering forms from NStar look forbidding at first, but after reading them, I don’t see any problems there.

But, I have not looked at the state(MA) requirements in a while.
I think they wanted ‘registered installers’(union?) the last time I looked.
Maybe the federal tax break won’t be so complicated..?.

PS:
I just read some ‘reviews’ of PV ground mounted arrays and the reviewer
found many major faults at most of the sites inspected (85% rings a bell).

So, in some cases, asking a ‘Solar Pro’ to install PV on your home, means you are flipping a coin. It might or might not be a good install.
If it looks like rain, is he going to get in a big hurry??
If you spend some effort educating yourself, and take your time,
you just might be able to do a better job.

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December 11th, 2009 @3:36 pm  

New blog post: Is Off The Shelf Solar Worth It? http://www.getsolar.com/blog/isoff-the-shelf-solar-worth-it/2948/

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DIY Solar? Said,
December 11th, 2009 @4:26 pm  

So what they are not telling the consumer is most utilities and or state rebate programs require that a licensed installer do the actual installation or they will not approve any state, local, or utility rebates. Hmmmmm…

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TomGray Said,
December 12th, 2009 @5:46 am  

Claiming that knowing how to point an arry is not for the do-it-yourselfer
assumes these folks are too dumbto even understand the concept of PVs.
ALL, and I mean ALL home electrical wiring tasks are easy, at least the understanding part – electrical logic is simple as hell, and PV array installation is no exception. Nor are those who know nothing hardly the types to be looking to install a system itself – warnings like the above are pointless and silly. Why not warn about Lowes offering breaker panels and GFIs ? That would be exactly the same thing, and just as pointless.

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Rickardo Said,
December 12th, 2009 @12:17 pm  

“Why not warn about Lowes offering breaker panels and GFIs ? That would be exactly the same thing, and just as pointless.”

All true, but there are some things worth warning even the experienced DIYer about.
Like, you just might forget there could be power on BOTH sides of the breaker that feeds power From your PV inverter.

Of course, the grid-sensor in the EnPhase ’should’ shut down the array output
if you opened the breaker. But it’s wise not to trust firmware to always do the right thing in a timely manner.

Or, maybe that the open circuit voltage of 44 VDC from one panel might not seem like enough to hurt you.. But, it can..
And when you are up on a roof, even a mild shock can be very dangerous,
because it can result in a fall.
Of course, being chased around the roof by wasps is worse! ;)

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arriflex Said,
December 13th, 2009 @12:40 pm  

It is my understanding that, in California at least according to the CPUC, homeowners are allowed to install their solar systems themselves and not use a licensed installer. Naturally and appropriately, they are subject to the same (and often higher scrutiny) code review by municipal building inspectors.

There are a surprising number of DIY’rs who are perfectly comfortable on their roofs. Load ratings generally run against tables so that the average building inspector doesn’t have to think for themselves. Penetrating the roofing is an age old and well understood process by many.

Electrical systems are not rocket science. Enphase micro-inverters substantially simplify the system design; however, as Rikardo noted, there are major issues with the existing building code that will need to be rectified prior to micro inverters taking off. The concept of having a system where each panel operates at it’s own highest efficiency is enticing. The concept of maintaining a database of the individual and aggregate panel performance is especially exciting. The concept that a panel failure is both easy to locate and doesn’t take down the entire branch circuit is spectacular.

If there is a soapbox to be mounted it is in favor of simplifying unnecessarily complex systems rather than protecting jobs for the short term. Trying to mystify and obscure the real challenges of a given industry will only lead to angst against it. I am impressed by kenoatman’s attitude toward diy’rs and expect his business will grow appropriately from his openness and embracing of a very active market sector.

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Margaret Collins Said,
December 14th, 2009 @2:26 pm  

A lot of good points here. For my part, I don’t entirely disavow DIY solar; there are some dedicated DIYers out there who certainly have the skill, wherewithal, and time to do solar right, and yes, these EnPhase-integrated panels will make their job that much safer and easier. But as DIY Solar points out, solar on your own may make you ineligible for state or utility-based incentives. This can negate any savings you might have seen from doing the project on your own. (@ arriflex: most CA incentives do require at least a contractor’s license; the CSI requires the work to be done by an “appropriately licensed” solar installer, and goes so far as to recommend NABCEP certification, which is pretty hefty. But the federal tax credit, as far as I know, is available to any solar installation so long as it uses new equipment.)

Installers don’t work on a huge profit margin, so if you are committed to DIY solar, it should be to teach yourself about solar and not to save money–once you factor in incentives (and the money your own man-hours are worth), you may not be coming out far ahead. Don’t dismiss the design and engineering aspect of working with a pro; every percent more efficient your system is translates into exponential savings over the 25-30+ year life of your system.

@ Rickardo: Point well taken about inefficiently installed (or incorrectly installed) pro systems. That’s why, whether you go through a service like GetSolar or are looking on your own, we urge everyone to review their installer carefully. How many installations have they done? Will they provide references? What’s their service warranty? As with any contract project, you do need to exercise good judgment as a consumer and make sure you’re working with reputable, skilled installers.

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