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April 24th, 2009 @4:02 pm  

New blog post: Solar leasing on the rise http://www.getsolar.com/blog/solar-leasing-on-the-rise/

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Tor Said,
May 2nd, 2009 @1:16 pm  

Hey, there,

I’d just like to point out that the program that you’re describing is not a lease, but a Power Purchase Agreement or “PPA.” And while they say it’s as little as $1000 down, I believe that that down payment rises with the size of your system, so your down payment may actually be larger.

With a PPA, depending on your agreement and down payment, the electric rate that you’re paying for your solar panels may rise incrementally over the term of the PPA. That’s very different from the leasing model.

In the classic “lease,” a model developed mostly by California based Solar City, there is no down payment and you do not pay for any power that your panels generate. Instead, as noted, you’re paying the for the lease payment plus any extra power you have to buy from your electric company. The catch is that your leasing payment also rises 3.9%. That’s typically less than the 5% increases by electric company.

So, bottom line:

PPA, you pay for power generated by solar panels with some money down and yearly increases on your PPA electric rate.

Lease, you have no money down (typically) and pay a flat leasing fee that rises every year by a certain percent, plus left over Utility bill.

In both cases, you are locked into the agreement for 15-20 years and have usually have an option to buy. You also must have a very good credit rating.

While both these options are good for low cost financing, in the long term, you’re better off financially using home equity or an energy efficiency mortgage to buy your panels. Today’s various incentives make this very attractive.

Either way, you have nothing to lose by getting a quote from these various companies and comparing the financial pros and cons.

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Adam Said,
May 5th, 2009 @9:21 am  

I agree, Tor — using home equity loans/incentives makes the most sense. I thought that, while not all lease programs require down payments, many do. Is that right? Also, with a lease, you could potentially lease-to-own, right?

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Tor Said,
May 8th, 2009 @12:51 pm  

Hey, Adam,

I’m most familiar with the California market and have seen very few lease programs for residential systems. Lease programs are expensive for the solar installer because they take the risk of all of the upfront costs. That’s why it’s a big player like Solar City, which is very well capitalized, can offer the Lease and see no money upfront except for the California rebates, which is kind of like a cash down payment.

Yes, with leases–at least from Solar City–as well as residential PPAs, they often structure some type of buy out at the end of the term. I have not seen the details, but supposedly the purchase price takes into account the rebates they’ve received, but owners will NOT directly see those rebates if they decide to buy. In other words, you can’t lease for 15 years and then get a rebate from the State after the lease is done and you buy out the system.

Leasing is really nothing new. It’s similar to car lease, where the monthly payments are lower but you have a pre-negotiated buy out in the end.

Again, and as you pointed out, buying really is the most cost effective way to go and there are several programs, especially here in California, that make it O down.

Clean Power Finance is one place to look:

http://www.cleanpowerfinance.com/solar/residential-loans/

Like you, I write about these and other financing methods as well as solar basics on my blog, “Dear Solar Fred” http://www.solarfred.com. It’s a very simple guide to solar and includes links to solar resources, including http://www.getsolar.com.

Tor

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Adam Said,
May 13th, 2009 @11:15 am  

Thanks for your follow up, Tor. Your observation that installers who offer leasing options take on a lot of the risk — so it makes sense that big players, like SolarCity, are pretty much the only ones in the market. It may also be the reason why state-sponsored lease programs — like the on from CT Clean Energy Fund — are becoming a viable option. In these scenarios, ultimately it’s the state, rather than the installer, that bears (and spreads) the risk.

Something I’ve thought a lot about is the fact that a cost-effective solar solution should actually improve a buyer’s ability to service their mortgage debt. By saving on monthly operating/electricity expenses, owners have more free $$ to meet their monthly loan payments. Appraisers seem to understand this, as do lenders who offer EEMs. But, more broadly, I wish consumers themselves would realize this.

OK, enough from me. Thanks again for your thoughts. I’ve check out your site, and will look forward to your future posts.

Best,
Adam

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Tor Said,
May 14th, 2009 @1:33 am  

Thanks for checking out my site, Adam. It’s genuinely intended to educate consumers about PV, financing options, and to encourage them to get a quote.

Regarding potential solar consumers, I think this is a great time for commercial PV…and an iffy time for residential PV because people are just jittery about making any investment right now despite all of these great incentives and 0 down programs like leases and PPAs.

From my talks with some industry people, leasing and PPAs will be a growing trend and perhaps take off big time by the end of the year, or beginning of 2010 in other States. Already, SunRun is in Massachusetts, as you noted, and the financing people behind the Connecticut Leasing program is also trying to jump start a plan in Pennsylvania and other states. Solar City is in Oregon, Arizona, and California and I’m sure working on other States that are rebate and/or renewable energy credit (REC) friendly.

While using home equity is certainly the most advantageous in Solar friendly states, these various leasing and PPA models aren’t so bad, so long as the companies can make it win-win. That is, the lease payment and residual utility electric bill has to be lower than the current rate. Sadly, I don’t think many will do it for the environment alone, and yet it’s ironic that with these various programs, consumers really do have little if anything to lose!

So, to everyone reading this, get a quote! They’re free. Couldn’t hurt, and you might be surprised…

Tor aka “Solar Fred”
http://www.solarfred.com

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JC Said,
March 14th, 2010 @1:54 pm  

Solar Lease sounds sweet, but is not a very good option for the customer. This article points out the problems of this wall street “scam”

http://sanjosegreenhome.com/2010/01/27/secrets-of-residential-solar-lease-sweet-deal-or-disastrous-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-618

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